Scott,
Dayton, Ohio and I’m definitely familiar with the conditions you
describe. By flooding, perhaps we’re not on the same page, I think you’re
imagining that I’m suggesting they hose down the job when what I mean is
to go very heavy on the strip washer wetting of the window. Much the same way
we do when we encounter windows that are completely covered with loose dirt
during the summer (but obviously including methanol in the water if the
conditions are that cold). I wouldn’t hose down a job under any
circumstances even in the summer … there are other problems that could result
besides the one you’ve pointed out. If that’s the way my post was
taken … my apologies for being unclear.
We don’t have any jobs with such
heavy salt build up that our standard methods fail to work … so all I
could do was imagine what I would be likely to try if I did run into it. What I’m
basically saying I would do is to wash the frames first then do pretty much the
same thing we always do but with a greater amount of cleaning solution on the
strip washer (get the glass very, very wet) to help keep the salt loose until
we can squeegee it away. Then dry rag the frames after.
As pointed out by someone else earlier,
methanol is expensive and you could waste quite a bit having to use this
process. Nonetheless, if I face that situation I’d give it a try …
I don’t buy any kind of supplies, including methanol, that are as costly
as wasted man hours … so I’d want to find the fastest way to
achieve a quality job. At 27 degrees … my solution could work very well
at 2-1 water to methanol without freezing … which means I’m using
about a half a gallon of methanol to a gallon of water … or … in
terms of cost … I’m spending about $3.00 for a bucket of solution …
if it keeps my time closer to the normal production time it’s well worth
it because even a loss of ½ of a man hour would cost me more than twice that
amount and when you start changing your routine your likely to lose a lot more
than ½ of a man hour over the course of a day.
Michael D. Brinegar
President
Pride Master, Inc.
www.pridemaster.com
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Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005
1:21 PM
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Subject: RE: [World] winter
cleaning - salt problems
Not to bust ones bubble , but do you live in a
northern area? Flooding windows when it is under 27 degrees is a big mistake.
Between the sidewalk freezing and the building, water will instantly
freeze in these temperatures. The only thing that might work is dry
ragging the frames first, then wash the window and clean off residue
afterwards.Cold temperatures requires a differant way of doing things.
--
SCOTT GRANDSARD
C & S WINDOW CLEANING
CARPENTERSVILLE IL.
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From: "Mike Brinegar" <addressis@removed>
Who
… this didn’t come across right at all J
I
don’t have any jobs that get as much salt as that sounds like but I think
I’d try washing the frames first, flooding the windows rather heavily
then wiping the frames down again after.
If that didn’t work then I guess I’d do what you’re
doing and ask the groups opinion once again.
What I
meant to say was …
I
don’t have any jobs that get as much salt as that sounds like but I think
I’d try washing the frames first, flooding the windows rather heavily
then wiping the frames down again after standard cleaning. If that didn’t work then I guess
I’d do what you’re doing and ask the groups opinion once again.
The way
I sent it the first time sounded like I was going to flood the windows and
leave them go at that.
Michael D. Brinegar
President
Pride Master, Inc.
www.pridemaster.com
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Brinegar
Sent: Thursday,
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Subject: RE: [World] winter
cleaning - salt problems
Michael D. Brinegar
President
Pride Master, Inc.
www.pridemaster.com
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Sent: Wednesday,
December 07, 2005 2:46 PM
To: addressis@removed
Subject: [World] winter cleaning -
salt problems
I need some suggestions from my cold
weather colleagues. I clean an office building that is on a main street in
Hamilton, Ont. During the winter, salt spray from the traffic covers
everything. At different times I have tried cleaning with methyol alcohol, windshield
fluid and varying amounts of ammonia, all with the same results. These are:
a) After wiping the dark brown
fames/sills,streakes of white residue reappear.
b) Any solution left on the window's
edge turns white.
c) Any attempt to detail transfers white
back on to the glass.
Any ideas on how to attack this job
would be greatly appreciated.
Jack Gillies - Enjoy the View Window
Cleaning